Sunday, January 20, 2013

Buffett: U.S. debt on its own ‘not a problem’


Warren Buffett 
says the federal deficit is less of a problem than it’s made out to be.

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Billionaire Warren Buffett believes the federal deficit should be stabilized in relation to U.S. economic growth, but that the nation’s $16.4 trillion in red ink is not trouble in and of itself.

“It is not a good thing to have it going up in relation to GDP, that should be stabilized, but the debt itself is not a problem,” the CEO of Berkshire Hathaway BRK.A +0.01% said in an interview broadcast Sunday on the CBS “Sunday Morning” news show.

“What is right about America just totally dwarfs what’s wrong with Washington. 535 people are not going to mess up 315 million over time. I know it.”
Warren Buffett, CEO of Berkshire Hathaway

The nation’s debt is “a lower percent of GDP [gross domestic product] than it was when we came out of World War II. You’ve got to think about it in relation to GDP,” added Buffett, a vocal advocate for increased taxes on the nation’s wealthiest, a stance he alluded to in the broadcast.

“I would say in a country with $50,000 of GDP per person, that nobody should be hungry, nobody should lack a good education, nobody should be worried about medical care, you know, nobody should be worried about their old age.”

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/buffett-us-debt-on-its-own-not-a-problem-2013-01-20

Uncertainty on Batteries May Weigh on Boeing

Stuart Isett for The New York Times
Boeing’s Everett, Wash., factory is producing five 787 Dreamliners a month. One possible cause of battery fires has been ruled out.

But the grounding, prompted by a battery fire on one jet and the emergency landing of another, has knocked Boeing off stride. Now, investors as well as government officials are paying close attention to see how big the issue becomes for the company, which is one of the nation’s biggest exporters.Until smoldering batteries forced safety regulators to ground Boeing’s new 787 Dreamliner jets last week, the aircraft manufacturer was flying high, with soaring profits and a recently regained No. 1 ranking in jet deliveries over Airbus.

Although company officials said they expected to find a solution quickly, federal regulators on Sunday ruled out one simple explanation — that the battery was overcharged. If the problems prove more complicated, they could threaten Boeing’s plans to expand production of the planes, and the jobs that go with them.

“Boeing has a lot at stake, for its headlining airliner and for the company brand,” said Scott Hamilton, the managing director of the Leeham Company, an aviation consulting firm in Issaquah, Wash.

Mr. Hamilton said he had no doubt that Boeing would “work its way through this.” But until more is known about the batteries, he said, “it’s impossible to draw conclusions about what went wrong, what the fix is, how long it will take and what the long-term damage to the 787 and to the Boeing brands will be.”

In what would seem to be the worst possible outcome right now, Boeing might also have to redesign its powerful new lithium-ion battery system, or even switch back to older, safer models. Aviation experts said such changes could cost hundreds of millions of dollars and shave off some of the 20 percent savings in fuel costs that the new jets have delivered.

Analysts say Boeing, which has about $80 billion a year in sales, has the financial muscle to weather the problems and make production of the next generation of airliners succeed in an industry familiar with outsize bets.

But the recent incidents were a reminder of the manufacturing and testing mishaps that had delayed the development of the planes. And any lengthy new delay could tax the patience of airlines and investors who thought the Chicago-based company had put the problems behind it
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/21/business/battery-fire-resolution-may-weigh-on-boeing.html?_r=0
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Hostess union hires investment bank


NEW YORK — The pension fund for one of Hostess Brands' unions has hired an investment bank to represent workers and pensioners as the maker of Twinkies and Wonder Bread sells off its brands.
In a statement posted Sunday on its website, the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union – which represents around 6,000 Hostess bakers – said Gordian Group LLC will represent the fund.
Gordian, a New York investment banking firm that specializes in distressed cases, has represented unionized workers at American Airlines, which is undergoing restructuring in bankruptcy. It's also an adviser in the ongoing liquidation of disgraced investor Bernard Madoff's firm.
Earlier this month, Irving, Texas-based Hostess selected Flower Foods Inc. to buy its six bread brands, including Wonder Bread, along with 20 bakeries and 38 depots, for $390 million.
Flower Foods, based in Thomasville, Ga., was selected as the "stalking horse" bidder for the bread brands. That means higher competing bids can still be made and the final deal must be approved in bankruptcy court.
Hostess is expected to find buyers for its dessert cakes, which include its iconic Twinkies and Ding Dongs, along with the Drake's Cakes and Dolly Madison brands, in the coming weeks.
Gordian President Peter Kaufman said his company will try to ensure that potential buyers hire former Hostess workers and honor Hostess' pension obligations.
"Given the sale process that is under way, we believe the bakers working with a buyer create the opportunity to increase value and are pivotal to the success of the business," Kaufman said in a statement. "Buyers should know that the Bakers are very interested in having direct discussions with them."
The Bakery and Confectionary Union and Industry International Pension Fund pays out $42 million in benefits per month to 52,000 pensioners, according to its website. Hostess told a bankruptcy judge in November that it was no longer able to pay its retiree benefit, which total $1.1 million per month, and that it stopped contributing to its union pension plans more than a year ago.
Hostess filed for bankruptcy protection in January 2012, after years of management turmoil and turnover. A bankruptcy judge approved its plan to liquidate its assets in November after it failed to reach a new contract agreement with the bakers' union.

11 comments:

edgar said...

That Buffet maggot ain't never gonna die. Egad.

chicken little said...

Should fame linger after performance dies?

We elevate humans to god-like qualities all the time. Yet, when they no longer perform in superior capacity, we seldom lower them from their esteemed positions. Actors. Politicians. CEO's. Authors. It makes no difference who they are we seldom admit that, like the Emperor in the fable, they have no clothes. Nor do we admit that just because someone achieves a certain notoriety for one aspect of their life, it does not make them infallible.

Buffet will always do what is right for Buffet--regardless if it is right for the country, his employees, or even his children. His absurb statement that 535 people are not going to mess up 315 million over time shows he hasn't spent much time studying history. Tyrants (ie 1 even) can affect the entire world. Hey, Buffet, you ever heard of Adolph?

And debt is no problem. Of course it isn't--IF you have money. But ask Queen who has to worry over her medical care. Bills have to be paid. Ask Scrooge. "Aren't their workhouses?"

It is our very attitude toward DEBT that has changed. What was once abhorrent (charity/dole) to take without working is now ADVOCATED. How many on disability are milking it? How many truly need it?

I know a woman with four boys. The eldest a senior in HS. Each is getting disability checks. Why? Oh, they have 'issues' ie learning problems or behavioral problems. And this is disability? The eldest wants to join the service. He got a 7 on the test. (And he's going to take it again at the recruiters.)

If he passes, do you want him 'protecting' you? And he'll come home to go to college on the GI bill when he isn't college material and will probably not finish...racking up more debt.

As to Boeing and batteries. How much you want to bet they were told to ignore any problems in the testing as they were so far behind in production?

Does anyone here actually yearn to try the 'latest' drug, software, etc. and be first? Celebrex? Vista? NO, we all want to wait until the 'kinks' are worked out. But how many of us are test subjects without even knowing it?

My husband and grandkids love Ring Dings. I hope they return BUT I'll be interested in seeing how the Baker's Union makes out. As Queen wrote yesterday, they have robots for these jobs.

Unfortunately, I do believe that we are in the midst of another Industrial Revolution and it is one of Robotics. It means an entire revision as to jobs and will affect all of us. We will need inventiveness and imagination to survive. And they don't include that in any HS criteria that I've seen.

Got your oil can and can you read blue prints ?

Mammoth said...

CL, having worked in Aerospace I can assure you the test technicians would NOT knowingly pass deficient product through the acceptance process.

I recall one individual who did 'fudge' electrical test results and he was fired immediately.

Mammoth said...

What does Jimmy Buffet know about investing, anyway? From the nonsense he spews, it seems to me that he is still wasting away in Margaritaville.

Mammoth said...

(Yes, I know the article was about Warren, not Jimmy...)

chicken little said...

Maybe we're better off listening to Jimmy, Mammoth!

Queenbee said...

I would say the Hostess pension is as underwater as homes in Phoenix. They admit to not even contributing for a year and now the union will outsource the selling off of the brands. Good luck with that.

As for the Nightmareliner who in their right mind would get on board one for a while. The Airbus380 had troubles too, but they are up and running. Good luck as a brand I like Boeing. Lithium Ion batteries are no easy fix. Remember the laptops catching on fire?

As for Buffet I respect him for his thrift and all the money he gives away. He has made a lot of money, but I don't see anyone calling him a Madoff or Corzine. He is a market mover and even at his age pretty damn smart. I think he is just hoping the government cannot screw it up for everyone.

I am going to buy some SWC as soon as I can see another good entry point. I think that stock will go to 18-20, but I don't have a time line as it could also drop down to 10 if management doesn't make some changes. The Clinton Group letter hit the nail on the head. They own over 25% of the stock and they need to fire that old goat at the top and sell off those horrible purchases they made last year.

Queenbee said...

Where is George W Bush? Why wasn't he at the Golden Globes? I think he is embarrassed to show his face. You can tell that Hollywood love Clinton as I think he came on just before they gave the award to an English Actor for his performance as Lincoln. He really was quite good, but the movie dragged. Bush could have opened Zero Dark Thirty, but oh that's right he didn't catch OBL it was the Seals team sent in by the CIA and Obama.

chicken little said...

Bush is not at the inaugural because he is with his father who is recovering.

Of course, Hollywood loves Clinton. Why wouldn't they? We will have a new global carbon tax before the next four years end. I'm cynical enough to say look at the sun for weather issues but I'm sure that, like in the UK, the corporate elite will push the tax and rake it in to their pockets. All these 'efforts' never seem to produce what they claim, do they?
Watch us get entrenched in Africa. It is already under way. All the world is a stage, remember?

But, then, having just read they are looking for a femal volunteer to carry the cloned baby of a Neanderthal there is little that surprises me. They want to 'study' the reproduced child as they may be 'smarter' than we think.

Somehow I view that as an oxymoron, but, as I've often said, I'm a cynical old broad.

Queenbee said...

Is all this gloom and doom just an illusion. Can all the bloggers be wrong and the Central banks really can hide the debts forever? Is there a solution? I sure don't know.

Mammoth said...

Queenbee, although the market may be able to remain irrational longer than you are able to remain solvent, eventually the Central Bank's chickens will eventually come home to roost.